The Fruits of the Atonement: Part One

Everything Is A Miracle

This includes a short report of 10 Scriptural References of gospel principles, as they relate to the Atonement.

The First Reference under atonement, as taken from the Bible Dictionary, a general overview:

Note: I have altered and supplemented the definition of atonement, as found in The Bible Dictionary, to more fully and accurately define the aspects found therein.

The word atonement, describes the setting “at one,” of those who have been estranged, and denotes the reconciliation of man to God. Sin is the cause of the estrangement, and therefore the purpose of atonement is to correct or overcome the consequences of sin. From the time of Adam to the death of Jesus Christ, true believers were instructed to offer animal sacrifices to the Lord. These sacrifices were symbolic of the forthcoming death of Jesus Christ, and were done by faith in Him (Moses 5:5–8).

Jesus Christ, as the anointed One, and Only Begotten Son of God, and the only sinless person to live on this earth, was the only one capable of making an atonement for mankind. By His selection and foreordination in the Grand Council before the world was formed, His divine Sonship, His sinless life, the shedding of His blood in the garden of Gethsemane, His death on the cross and subsequent bodily resurrection from the grave, He made a perfect atonement for all mankind. All are covered as pertaining to the resurrection, for all shall rise from the dead with immortal bodies because of Jesus’ Atonement. “For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive” (1 Cor. 15:22)

All little children are innocent at birth, and will automatically be covered by the atonement, until developmentally accountable. For this reason little children need no baptism until age eight, or until deemed accountable by the Lord. The forgiveness of sins is conditional however, on repentance. Each person’s individual forgiveness touches them to the degree that they have faith in Jesus Christ, repent of their sins, and obey the gospel.

The services of the Day of Atonement, foreshadowed the atoning work of Christ (Lev. 4; 23:26–32; Heb. 9). The scriptures point out that no law, ordinance or sacrifice would be satisfactory, if it were not for the Atonement of Jesus Christ (Heb. 10:1–9; 2 Ne. 9:5–24; Mosiah 13:27–32).

Sin is rebellion. (1 Jn. 3:4) It is a refusal on men’s part to submit to the laws of God (Rom. 8:7). By Adam’s transgression, man loses control over his own will, and becomes the slave of sin. (Rom. 7:14) So incurs the penalty of spiritual death, which is separation from God (Rom. 6:23). The Atonement of Jesus Christ, brings all mankind before the bar of God, to be answerable for their own manner of life. The means of atonement, is provided by the Father (John 3:16–17), and is offered in the life and person of His Son, Jesus Christ (2 Cor. 5:19).

Second Reference under Atonement: Grace, as it relates to the atonement.

“Wherefore, my beloved brethren, reconcile yourselves to the will of God, and not to the will of the devil and the flesh; and remember, after ye are reconciled unto God, that it is only in and through the grace of God that ye are saved.” (2 Nephi 10:24)

In other words, pray unto the Father for forgiveness, repent, and know that it is not your penitence alone, or even the good works you do through the enabling atonement and grace in the first place, but that even after all this, we fall short, and need Him and His grace. We can do no good thing without Him.

As a further note, consider that Adam and Eve would not exist after partaking of the forbidden fruit without the promised atonement in place, for even their spirits would die, as would their bodies, except for this atonement. This is why God’s statement is true and correct. “Ye shall surely die (as a result thereby). As scriptures state, we would die spiritually and temporally (temporally meaning physically), except for our Father providing a Savior.

This staying alive spiritually was also extended to the adversary as their only grace, given by the glory of God. It was the Lord’s pre-instated act of atonement, of both before and beyond, which made providence to even give us all life in the first place, and the opportunity to have this probationary state and test here on earth. Jesus is the Life of the world, and all God’s children. With the act of transgression, Adam and Eve could then have children, and we could then be given bodies, and live here on earth away from our Heavenly Parents.

Think of the signifigance of this, why else would the adversary be purposely sent here, but to be a part of God’s plan for our test? The second great secret then, is that even the adversary will at one point, come to himself, and make his long, arduous way back home, as the ultimate prodigal son.

This will take place after his complete burning and purging clean in outer darkness, where he will finally realize, after having given his all to win, and having lost, suffering all the consequences he has to face, will penitently acknowledge all his faults, and be given the long, hard road home.

This will be at the end of his Third Estate, Estate referring to a period of life, separated by other periods of life, for example: The First Estate referring to a pre-earth life, The Second Estate as our earth life, and The Third Estate as post-earth life. At the end of Lucifer’s third Estate, he and his followers will then begin again, having learned in their best way possible, not to rebel.

Because Satan and his followers forfeit their agency in the pre-earth life, meaning that they placed themselves in a position where they cannot, and will not do anything good, and can only choose how to carry out their evil purposes, they will have a fair judgement, in the which situation they will be given the ability to repent, and begin again, in their next eternal life, with another First, Second and Third Estate, having served their purposes of helping to exalt us.

We too being called up to our next eternal life, having already enjoyed exaltation and eternal life, holy glory, joy and peace, will then also begin again, with another First, Second and Third Estate. Already having experienced the full healing and forgiveness from and for Lucifer and his followers, they also being changed, and gruelingly repented of all of their innumerous sins on their long road home, we will then in our next eternal life, finally welcome him and them back into the Father’s house, and will all be at peace, with a prefect understanding of the plan of our Father, for He is a prefect God, and will not lose any of His children. All having fulfilled their missions in the exalting of all of us. Satan, through being opposition for us to repent, learn and grow, and Jesus, providing the only way back home for us all. For it’s not just that we repent to become like our Savior, but it is in the repentance process we experience, that we become like Him.

As another note, all of us are, in body and spirit, collectively and individually held together and organized in perfection, through the atonement, under the sublime honor of God, and all his creations, unto the utmost high, holy, infinite, majestic and glorified creation of our spirits and bodies, even the highest and most sacred stewardships of all. We are to foster the good, and “bleed” out the bad through Christ Jesus.

Even Lucifer and his devils are held together, and not disorganized as dark matter unto their non-existence, for the atonement covers all of God’s children, even unto the sparing the children of darkness, who followed Satan and the benighted kingdom of Sheol. For the Lord controls and subjects them all.

Another truth, evil cannot get worse, unless good gets better. Their bounds are set, they cannot cross.

Third Reference under Atonement: Mercy, as a fruit of the atonement.

Isaiah 54:7
For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.

A poem I wrote which helps explain and substantiate this scripture.

Mercy

Mercy is the substance,
Which stops our downward fall,
And gives place for grace,
To then lift us to our potential.

It is the sure steady rock,
Which we can all rely upon.
It’s essence and founder,
Is Christ our Savior.

He gained this victory and power,
As He lived and sacrificed His life,
With charity as the oath and standard held,
And champion which prevailed.

Christ is the Word, possessing
Every perfect godly attribute,
Which were poured forth,
From the garden, cross, and tomb.

He bought our way to freedom,
Living and giving His life in perfect light,
Shewing us mercy in loving submission,
And giving all the power to rise.

Mercy and grace work side by side,
And hand in hand, for without them,
We could not comprehend,
Or be lifted out of the power of Satan.

Mercy is God’s gracious gift,
Our great loving rescuer.
Grace is shared by Christ,
His gifts of perfecting power.

Forth Reference under Atonement: Charity, the pure love of Jesus Christ.

2 Nephi 33:7
I have charity for my people, and great faith in Christ that I shall meet many souls spotless at his judgment seat. Nephi had developed great charity for all his people, and knew that he would be greeted with such a wonderful reunion on the other side when he passed.

Fifth Reference, under Atonement: Hope, as a gift of the Spirit from the atonement.

Listen to the powerful words of Joel, as he relates the word of the Lord unto his people.

Joel 3:16
The Lord also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the Lord will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.

This refers to the Zion of the New Jerusalem, and also the Jerusalem of old in Judea. The New Jerusalem shall be in Jackson County Missouri in North America, where His power shall be manifest, and the nations fear, for the fear of the Lord shall be there. And from the Old Jerusalem, the Zion of old, shall come forth His word.

For the salvation of the Old Jerusalem, two prophets from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, primarily the prophet of the last days, and his first councilor in the first presidency, shall go forth there, and fight off the armies of gog and magog. This will take place until the prophet allows himself to be killed, and then his first councilor, thus becoming martyrs for their own testimony of our Lord.

These two governing bodies of Zion will be as one, even His law and power coming forth from the New Jerusalem, and His word from the Old Jerusalem, renewed, for we need them both.

Sixth Reference under atonement: Faith, as is a gift of the Spirit from the atonement.

Matthew 9:29
Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you. And they were healed.

Seventh Reference under Atonement: Repentance, as a gift of the atonement.

Acts 3:19
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;…

The refreshing spoken of for us is the second coming, when the presence of the Lord will be here, and refresh the earth, and all that be from the time since the beginning of the earth.

Eighth Reference under the Atonement: Perfection, a fruit of conversion through the atonement.

Moses 8:27
And thus Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord; for Noah was a just man, and perfect in his generation; and he walked with God, as did also his three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

To me being a perfect man or woman in this life, means nothing more than to know the Lord, to be like Him, being born again and converted, walking in the love and light of His soul, having the constant companionship of the Gift of the Holy Ghost.

Knowing to whom you belong, and living according to all that you know, to the very best of your ability. To be yoked with the savior, in that you and He pull the load together, and with Him by your side, He makes up for that which we lack.

Ninth Reference under the Atonement: Humility, as is a gift of the Spirit.

James 4:10
Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up. Humility is a strength.

Tenth Reference under the Atonement: Patience, as a parent virtue of many other attributes of Christ.

Revelations 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Shane

God’s Perpetual Growth as Father

Eternal Progression For All

As is stated, God grows through his children, and through carrying out his work and glory, to bring us up to be as He.

Although God is perfect and able to do all, except sin, and knows and has all power over all his creations and children, He still grows. To say otherwise is to try to limit Him.

Let’s face it, we all grow and change throughout all the eons and eternal lives we go through, throughout all the eternities. Once we’ve finished our cycle of the current eternal life, of pre-mortal, mortal and post-mortal, we are then called up to the next larger, more powerful, bigger and better phase of existence.

What awaits us then? Another premortal, mortal and postmortal existence, only on a much larger scale. With the extremes being extended, both the good and bad, and the inherent, endowed ability of a higher form of entity, than is presently attainable in our current eternal life.

To focus more on our current state, we are all in the progression of life in the present, past and future, and what we do impacts the future, just as our past has effected our present. However, did you know that our future also effects our present? It does! It goes both ways, back and forth, ’round and ’round again, as we roll up the progressive “hill” of advancement in eternal lives.

There’s more, but it cannot be written, be it forbidden.

Shane

The Atonement and Fall: Part One

The Ultimate Prodigal

Adam and Eve were innocent before the Fall, in which they had choice, but not yet agency. For agency is the ability to do good, under the knowledge of good and evil. They used their choice to choose to be given agency, by succumbing to the Fall. But there also had to be an opposition to the Fall, for mankind to be given the opportunity to be reconciled with the Father. Only Jesus could do this. He is the perpetuation of the plan of God for man. It was God’s holy will to offer up His Son, to swallow up all sin via the bitter cup (literally). But he shrank not, and drank the utter dregs, finishing His preparations for man, as was His father’s will.

Before the Fall, in Adam and Eve’s innocents, they could do no good, for they knew no evil. They had only choice, but no knowledge of consequences, because they had no sin nor law given, only two commandments. To not partake of the fruit, and to be fruitful, multiply and replenish the earth – to have children.

God’s plan for the fall to take place, was one in which the atonement was also already in place. It worked in an eternal since, in which it would cover all of mankind, both before and beyond it actually taking place. God could not create Adam and Eve in a fallen state, because they had to be given life, and then commandments given, to then choose for themselves the partaking of The Fruit of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. This way God could place them in a new world, without causing or creating sin, for God is not able to sin, as is Satan not capable of doing good.  For there must needs be an opposition in all things, thus the tree of the knowledge of good and evil as opposition for mankind, and Satan to God. 

See 2 Nephi 2:11 below.

11 It must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. If not so, my firstborn in the wilderness, righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad. Wherefore, all things must needs be a compound in one; wherefore, if it should be one body it must needs remain as dead, having no life neither death, nor corruption nor incorruption, happiness nor misery, neither sense nor insensibility. (2 Nephi 2:11)

After Eve chose to trust in her feelings, and believe that they needed to understand the difference between good and evil, and Adam understanding the Father, without fully understanding the import of their decision’s outcome, they both partook. 

God knew that they would eventually come to the point where they would realize they needed something more to help them grow, in which they would choose to partake, and need the Lord’s saving atonement, for it is not just that we repent to become like Jesus, but it is in the actual repentance process itself, that we become like Him. This is one reason we needed earth life and the fall in the first place, and why a redeemer was chosen and prepared from before the foundations of the earth.

The Fall, or Adam’s transgression, is a spiritual death, because Adam and Eve were separated from the presence of God and given agency to act for themselves and not to be acted upon. See 2 Nephi 2:26

They were also given the great power of procreation, so that they could keep the commandment to multiply, and replenish the earth and have joy in their posterity. See Genesis 1:28

In this new and fallen state, they experienced a bodily change as well, to be able to have children. This is necessary because God gave them the commandment to multiply, and He always provides a way to obey Him.

If it were possible for them to have had children before the Fall, God would have had no purpose in the Earth. For in our mortal test period of probation, we needed death in both the separation from God spiritually, as well as our physical death, for us to be tried. Then after death, to be brought before God to be judged in our resurrected bodies, to move forward to progress onward to become like Him. The atonement and fall provide for this purpose. This is one reason why the resurrection is so important.

 We need to be tried, reproved and repent, in order to grow up to become like Him, even as a child can grow up to be like their parents. God had to create Adam and Eve in innocence, and give them the commandments He did, for God is a God of righteousness, and cannot create a state of sin or Fall.

It is an eternal principle that to everything good there is a little bad, and to everything bad there is a little good. This is why out of all the trees in the garden of Eden (Eden being our Earth’s real mortal name), there was only one poisoned tree, which was a fig tree, a tree originally created by Christ Jesus, but then later wrought upon by the evil influences of Lucifer and his devils, to become unhealthy and poisonous for mankind. Thus the Father commanded them not to partake of it, knowing that they would.

  • The principle of perfection

Because it is not within Heavenly Father’s nature to do or introduce error, He had to say to them, do not eat, or you shall surely die, all of which is true. Yet, He also wanted us to have children an become like Him. In so doing, Adam and Eve would have to make their own choice to partake. In this we would have to walk where God has walked, do as He has done, and follow the course He has followed. Therefore, we needed the fall, and a redeemer. Praise be to Adam and Eve for taking the courageous leap of faith and trust, to make the choice to partake.

See Teachings of the Presidents of the Church- Joseph Smith, pg 41 below.

God Himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make Himself visible,—I say, if you were to see Him today, you would see Him like a man in form—like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man. (Teachings of the Presidents of the Church – Joseph Smith, pg 41)

Everything has purpose and meaning, and God is over all His children. Now, speaking of God’s plan, the adversary is very much a part of it. We need opposition to permit, or rather give us permission to learn and grow. This need is stated in the earlier mentioned scripture in 2 Nephi 2:11, that there must be an opposition in all things.

Because the Lord took on all sins, and the source from which they spring, He also takes the ones from which they spring. Yes, somewhere, sometime, in the great eons of the eternal lives and onward, the ultimate prodigal son, will, having been burned and purged clean in the lake of fire and brimstone in outer darkness, finally come to himself, and begin his long arduous trek home. For God is a perfect God, with perfect love, and a perfect plan, and He will not lose any of His children.

So, is there hope for the rest of us? Definitely!

Shane

Grace, Salvation & Judgement: Part Two

Without Faith, It is Impossible to Please God

When we first approach God to be judged, it will be a first judgement, to be sent to a temporary place, where we will either be taught the gospel, if we had never learned it on earth, where we can accept it, repent, and be given the power of deliverance. Or, if we had the gospel and were good, we will be teaching those who did not have the gospel. We will each be exactly as we were spiritually and mentally before we died, so that even as we accept the gospel in this next temporary state, we would then need the ordinance of baptism, as well as further ordinances, to be fully be endowed to enter into the presence of God. We will all face Christ, and see ourselves exactly for who we are.

This is so because as Christ is the “true mirror,” which means that our true self will be reflected back to us, in the image and countenance of Christ, we will see ourselves for who we truly are. We will look on Him, and see our standing, and know either compassion, kindness, love and refinement, or separation, sorrow, sadness and disappointment.

However we have been on our mortal sojourn on earth, with the understanding, light and truth we incurred and was made available to us, the justice, mercy and grace of God, will on the fulcrum and balance scale, will determine our salvation, and the extent thereof.

Shane

Relationships – We Can Change People: Part Two

Our Actions Do Influence Others

In every exchange, whether passing by someone and making eye contact, or having a good common discussion with someone, we effect each other. A person who is an agent of light, love and Spirit, will make a good change. No matter how small or big, their exchanges in light, will always extinguish dark.

This is why we must act as righteous individuals, and not be acted upon. However, for an unrepentant, darkened individual, unwilling to follow the light, who chooses to be dark in spite of a righteous exchange with someone, they will in essence harden their hearts more, and become even worse than they were before.

Every action has an equal and opposite action or reaction, meaning that we can react negatively to a negative action, or we can act positively to a negative action. The same would hold true for the opposite.

We can act positively, and have a positive outcome on someone who is negative, even if we can’t see it, or notice the change from our exchange.

We must seek the Spirit in all we do, and listen to and obey His promptings early. In this knowledge we can effectively and joyfully be successful member missionaries, and effective in all we do in life.

Shane

Professionalism: Society’s Way of Communism

Capitalism? A Far Cry From Freedom

“Everyone act the same, be the same. Don’t talk this way, say these things, or do those things. It will be offensive.”

Sounds like a bunch of people who have lost their true roots, even their beginings. Robots who have no rights to feel, express, or create according to their conscience or desires. They must, according to professionalism, by means of earning a living, be in a sense, lifeless human beings, controlled and dictated by the puppeteer of socialistic communism. In other words, professionalism. If you don’t agree, read on.

What’s the alternative then? Is there a guide that leads us down a better path? A route that leads everyone to a more express part of who we really are? Can it truly be reached in a capitalistic society? Not fully.

The old adage that money is the root of all evil, is real. After all, loving something that is good cannot be wrong. Yes, it may be the root of all evil, but it’s not the source. The adversary is the source, and he uses money to corrupt people.

As for me, money is worthless. A divide between living the law of consecration, wherein everyone gets to know each other, uses their gifts and skills, and freely provides what they have to offer for each other. In this environment there is personal growth, service and love unrestrained. May we seek to live this better way.

Shane

Ammon, a Missionary to the Lamanites

Oh, What Joy!

This sketch’s context comes out from The Book of Mormon. Even from an Ammon, a missionary to the Lamanites, who knew and witnessed his own friend Alma, undergo a forgiveness of sins, through a falling down unto the earth, in a comatose type state. While under, he underwent a major change and healing of both body and spirit, his soul purifying and acclimating towards righteousness. So too, when his investigator King Lamoni fell to the earth, Ammon knew that it was unto the same effect.

This is also witnessed afterwards, by the awakening experience of both Alma and King Lamoni. Each, when they awoke, had been born again in Christ, through His loving, saving, powerful atonement.

Lamoni exclaimed, “Blessed be the name of God, and blessed art thou, for as sure as thou livest, behold, I have seen my Redeemer.” Alma exclaimed, “I have repented of my sins, and have been redeemed of the Lord; behold I am born of the Spirit. And the Lord said unto me: Marvel not that all mankind, yea, men and women, all nations, kindreds, tongues and people, must be born again; yea, born of God.”

Both Alma and Lamoni had similar saving experiences. Alma became a great missionary, and King Lamoni a great missionary to his people.

Shane

Heavenly Father & Jesus Christ’s roles in the Creation

Christ is The Word

Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ are two separate beings. Thus is Jesus referred to as His Son. In the creation aspect of the earth, Heavenly Father spoke the words of creation, giving Christ the instructions on how to perform the work. Then Jesus went forth and did as was spoken by Heavenly Father, even speaking forth the words of creation, for Christ is the Word of His power.

Below are two verses from the inspired translation of the Holy Bible, as found recorded in The Book of Genesis from the Old Testament.

Because much of the books in the original Bible were lost, and even some of the writings we have changed through incorrect inscribing, as well as through mal-intent, Joseph Smith, a modern day prophet, was prompted and inspired to make inspired translations of certain parts of the Bible, to help restore it to its original state. This work was never fully finished.

These two verses from the rendered restorative work out of The Book of Genesis, are distinguished from The Book of Genesis by being called, The Book of Moses, are helpful insights.

Moses 2:5 reads: And I, God, called the light Day; and the darkness, I called Night; and this I did by the word of my power [who is Christ], and it was done as I spake; and the evening and the morning were the first day.

Moses 1 also tells us of other countless earths created by Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, of which additional scripture like this tells us that Christ is the Savior of them all, even the entire universe.

In Moses 1:32 we read: And by the word of my power, have I created them (all these earths), which is mine Only Begotten Son, who is full of grace and truth.

As Jesus said, He does nothing except that which He sees, or hears His Father do and / or say. So Heavenly Father spoke the elements to organize, and then Jesus fulfilled His part of the creative process, and this aspect of His role, by creating the earth, as specified by the Father, first spiritually, and then physically.

Shane

Dragons & Unicorns: Creatures of Legend?

Some Fantasy For Fun

Wow! I think it’s so cool to think about how there have been so many different species of creatures on the earth, some which have now even become extinct.

I love to see all the many different references of the two mystic-type creatures in the Old Testament of the Holy Bible, properly called, The Book of the Lamb of God, which cite many instances, both figuratively and literally, of dragons and unicorns.

There are 43 total instances, between the Old and New Testaments, where they are dually mentioned.

The earth is much older than just the human years described in Holy writ, but the earth was indeed created by Jesus in the way He described. There had to be an era of dinosaurs, in the which the earth flourished while sustaining their life. Much later, human kind was put upon the earth.

We are grateful for records of such relevant events as the gigantic asteroid which hit the earth, causing all the fountains of the great deep to burst open, and rain back down the worldwide flood, in the which process the great continent split, and pieces drifted. We are grateful for all truths in all areas of study.

We know that all things have a spiritual side to them, for all things were created first spiritually, before they were physically manifested.

Perhaps one fun speculation to make, is from the folklore of humankind. We may not have these extinct creatures, but people still tell stories, and pass them down through the generations. Perhaps there is some probable truth in them.

One fun guess, is how there were firebreathing dragons. It’s possible that a creature could produce a poisonous flammable venom, which if sparked inside the oral cavity, could produce flames.

Another fun thought. The healing properties of unicorns. If unicorns were indeed a pure, innocent and righteous creature, whose bands stayed together and avoided humans, who, by virtue of their innocence and sacred kindness, had a healing agent coursing through their veins, which would heal the mortal wounds of mankind. Would this not be a reason for unwise and selfish people to try to take advantage of this holy beast, and slay them for personal use and gain? If so, wouldn’t this be plausible reason for them to stay away from mankind, and be dubbed, “wild.”

Joseph Smith, who is the inspired prophet of the restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ in the early 1800’s, said through revelation that unicorns were wild oxes.

I did some resent follow up searching, and there was some evidence in findings of there indeed being a unicorn found, but it was much different than the icon it has become today. It was even described as I would think an ox could look, and called “ugly,” which I can see, if one was expecting a white horse with a horn on its head.

This description fits the example given by Joseph Smith the prophet, by virtue of his prophetic mantle, that the unicorn was in form “a wild ox.” If men did indeed try to spill the creature’s blood for personal use, I can see why they would avoid humans and be wild, as opposed to domesticated.

I don’t think scientists have it all wrong when it comes to the physical aspect of things. For example, the timing of the earth, age wise, or even the explosion which they say took place.

In my definition, it would have occurred as God commanded it to be so. My thoughts go with the possibility that while we were living during our pre-mortal lives in heaven, that the earth had already been created, and was being inhabited by these majestic dinosaurs. Maybe that’s around how long the pre-mortal term of our lives lasted, before life for mankind began on earth?

Men can observe the same things, give them different names, and / or attach different meanings to it. Thus through the ages, legends have changed.

Shane

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