Natural Man & Woman vs. Spiritual Man & Woman

The Father of Nations, Bearer of the Abrahamic Covenant for the House of Israel, Sealer of the Promised Land

Question: Mosiah 3:19 tells us we are “natural men” and “women” from the fall, and that we can only “becometh a saint” through the Holy Spirit and the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Watch the above video, and listen to the audio below, and explain what these things mean to you in the comments, and what the process is as you have experienced it. Also, what stories can you find from the Holy Bible or Book of Mormon which exemplify this process?

A Mighty Change of Heart
by: Spencer J. Condie
Of the First Quorum of the Seventy
October 1993

Listen to the above audio talk from Elder Spencer J. Condie, and then answer the question for yourself in the comments section. Then you can read my answer below as well. See how yours compares.

Answer: Being a natural man or woman means that we are failing life, or living life through our body’s natural senses. We are thinking with our fallen physical brain, seeing with our fallen physical eyes, and feeling with our fallen physical hearts, for our body has these functions, even as our spirits do, but fallen.

To be a spiritually minded, hearted, and seeing Saint, we must use our spirits as our consciousness, rather than our bodies. We need to have an awakening from the word of God in our souls, where the Holy Spirit can, and has quickened our understanding. We do this as we utilize the atonement administered therein. Through the Holy Spirit we can have power over our bodies.

Living as a spiritual man or woman, our spirits think more quickly, and our bodies are strengthened through the Spirit’s manifestation. Our hearts become purer with the Holy Spirit’s essence and presence, and we are living the life God is living in us. This is what is known as living with the Gift of the Holy Ghost. To do so, one must have been baptized and confirmed with the power and authority of God, and receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost, under the direction of one who holds the priesthood keys to do so on earth. Our hearts, minds, bodies, and every facet of the members of our body are then elevated and strengthened in Christ.

Many people do not realize this, but to the natural man or woman, the so called, “subconscious” part of our existence, is really our spirits, thoughts (mind), feelings (heart), etc. If you are a natural man or woman, the veil, or our bodies rather, make it so we can’t be as aware of this part of our spiritual self, but it is still in us, because it is us.

Depending on how we follow the promptings of the Holy Ghost, or the Gift of the Holy Ghost, as we are obedient to the commandments of God, the effectiveness with which we utilize our spiritual man or women self is lessened or increased. For we truly are our spirits, and that which we pick up “subconsciously” by our spirits, doesn’t miss a thing, and still does affect us in the things we do. We do need to allow our spirits in Christ to have control over our fallen flesh body, rather than the opposite.

Now, after the resurrection, our bodies will be united with us, in a way in which they will actually a part of our literal identity. We will then be a “complete” soul.

Shane

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The Tyler Wilkinson Vision

Be Mindful of What You Ask For

There was a time in my life, when I had been tried on different medications, none of which had worked. I had been unstable, and piled upon with much abuse, torment and emotional and mental strain. Even having experienced ritualistic abuse, and an injection of a poisonous drug, which gave me the severest of mental illnesses, and also brain damage. Even such, that I had unspeakable mental and emotional baggage, demonic torturing, and all around life damage, that only God could undo and correct, and over a much longer period of time in my life.

One night however, while I was still fresh in the beginning of my recovery, having finally been tried on a new medication that actually started to work, I had been watching an inspirational video on tape (VHS). This video portrayed a young man who in high school back in the ‘80’s had been a phenomenal athlete.

He was and is a Latter-Day Saint, and starred in baseball, wrestling and football. He had many great things going for him, including scholarships, which he was very excited about and was planning on utilizing, and marrying his high school sweetheart. One night, when he was driving to see her at her dance competition, he was very tired, and fell asleep at the wheel. When he woke, he was facing an oncoming semi-truck, and Tyler over-corrected his vehicle to miss the collision, but in doing so he rolled his vehicle several times.

Tyler was left a survivor, and a quadriplegic. Instead of letting his new life take him and his ambitions down, and love for excelling in life, he did not relent, but became and did other things, which surpassed many others in a similar predicament.

He pushed and pushed himself into and throughout his recovery and rehabilitation, in very rigorous and devoted ways. He wanted the blessings!

After watching this video of him, entitled, Tyler, A Real Hero, narrated by Steve Young, I was powerfully moved upon. It was later in that same evening, while walking through the living room area of my parent’s home in California, that I said into the wide expanse above, “Tyler, I want to meet you.”

Later that night, I then said my prayers, and went to bed. Then, in my disheveled dreams, I was among the unhealthy individuals I associated with, in my not-too-distant past, playing football with them. Then, Tyler appeared there, and he was on my team. He was with me, giving me confidence and advice, and soon we conquered and walked away from the game.

I found myself in the living room with him, where he was standing in the very place I had cried out my heart’s desire to meet him.

He began to talk with me. “So, I understand that you are going through a hard time right now.” he said.

And then he told me how he had also been through some very difficult things. He exhorted me to start going forward again, and that things which were holding me back for so long were gone. He advised me to make good of my situation.

I began complaining saying, “But you don’t know what I’ve been through, what it’s like. You can’t possibly understand.”

“Yeah, maybe,” he stated, “but you can still do as I’ve done, and overcome.”

Then I continued complaining to him, saying, how hard it was, and that he had no idea. I then said, “This isn’t real, how is this even possible anyway!? You’re alive somewhere else, and I’m here!”

He then said, “We have our ways.”

To which I said, I can’t do this, and you can’t help me!”

To which he replied, “Then why did you ask me here?”

And he was slowly gone…

I then walked over to the family stereo, touched it, and inspected it, then looked around, and went back to my bedroom, got under my blankets, and went to sleep.

Shane

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